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WB William Isabelle
02-10-2009, 08:19 PM
The Man who would be King
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Bad Boys 2
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Hollywood Homicide
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Madmax
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Majestic
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Dolores Claibone
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What Planet are You from
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Bro. Richard Fenwick
02-11-2009, 02:07 AM
"The Man Who Would Be King" is probably one of my favourite movies - the whole story is based on Freemasonry... (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Man_Who_Would_Be_King) scroll down to plot summary.
Bro. Jason Lloyd
02-11-2009, 09:41 AM
good eye!
Bro. John Cummings
02-25-2009, 07:46 PM
I netflixed "From Hell" and decided to watch it tonight. I realized it is not, again NOT, a movie you want to watch while eating some dinner...
Bro. JC Walker
02-25-2009, 08:04 PM
"The Man Who Would Be King" is probably one of my favourite movies - the whole story is based on Freemasonry... (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Man_Who_Would_Be_King) scroll down to plot summary.
Love the movie, but I would rather read Brother Kipling's book than the plot summary. ;)
psunavy03
02-25-2009, 08:48 PM
Tombstone, courtesy of the Grand Lodge of BC and Yukon.
http://freemasonry.bcy.ca/fiction/images/tombstone01.html
http://freemasonry.bcy.ca/fiction/images/tombstone02.html
VWB Corby Christensen
02-25-2009, 10:37 PM
Some darker movie links include "From Hell" with Johnny Depp and "League of Extraordinary Gentleman" again with Sir Sean Connery.
S&F
C.
Bro. JC Walker
02-26-2009, 07:58 AM
Tombstone, courtesy of the Grand Lodge of BC and Yukon.
http://freemasonry.bcy.ca/fiction/images/tombstone01.html
http://freemasonry.bcy.ca/fiction/images/tombstone02.html
It is sad that of the two men in that movie wearing the S&C, one was a self-serving politician of questionable morals, and the other a flat-out murderous villain.
Of course, given the era and location, the veil between good and evil was very thin.
psunavy03
02-26-2009, 09:00 AM
It is sad that of the two men in that movie wearing the S&C, one was a self-serving politician of questionable morals, and the other a flat-out murderous villain.
Of course, given the era and location, the veil between good and evil was very thin.
It's impossible to read the story of the OK Corral with terms like "good" and "evil" in your head. There was no such animal and you could make the argument that everyone there was "evil" if you're going by the broad brush method. A very morally ambiguous time in our history.
Bro. Theo Jones
02-27-2009, 06:56 PM
This is not a movie but if any of you watch the FX show Damages, there is a scene where the villian of the 2nd season is dressed in drag and being roasted by some fellow high society members. What I found interesting or disparaging is that on the podium they were using there was a large S & C with a pentacle in the center instead of the "G".
Bro. Richard Fenwick
02-28-2009, 04:47 PM
Just watching "The Shawshank Redemption", which stars, amongst others, Bob Gunton. In a couple of scenes (I first noticed it in the scene in the forest, where he accepts the cake and bribe) Warden Norton wears a small badge which has what looks like a S+C emblem on it. Difficult to tell on my TV, may show up better on HD. Anyway, Bob also appears in Dolores Claiborne (see picture 6 below), with a S+C pin.
Interesting, I thought, particularly when I realised both stories were written by Stephen King. There may be many reasons for this symbolism, though!
Bro. JC Fowler
03-26-2009, 10:51 PM
the lion king has the cheif monkey with a cane with two balls
Bro. JC Walker
03-28-2009, 08:27 AM
the lion king has the cheif monkey with a cane with two balls
Rather than being a chief, Rafiki was a mystic teacher, which enforces your thoughts even more.
Bro. JC Fowler
03-28-2009, 10:44 AM
havent really watched the movie, just happen to be walking by as grandkids were watching and that caught my eye
WB Timothy W. Hogan
03-28-2009, 12:12 PM
Rather than being a chief, Rafiki was a mystic teacher, which enforces your thoughts even more.
More than that, he was also a baboon- which was one of the symbols for the Egyptian god Thoth- who was Mercury, who was Hermes, who was Hiram by some accounts....
Bro. A.T.Smith
03-28-2009, 01:40 PM
Not a movie (yet), but I just came across an interesting reference in one of the books I'm reading; John Grisham's "The Innocent Man". It's basically a true crime story on small town murders in and about Ada, Oklahoma. Chapter 4 ends thusly:
When Oklahoma was still a territory, Ada had a colorful and richly deserved reputation as an open haven for gunslingers and outlaws. Disputes were settled with six shooters, and the quickest on the draw walked away with no fear of punishment from civil authorities. Bank robbers and cattle thieves drifted to Ada because it was still Indian territory and not a part of the States. Sheriffs, when they could be found, were no match for the professional criminals who settled in and around Ada.
The towns reputation for Lawlessness changed dramatically in 1909, when the locals finally got fed up with living in fear. A respected rancher named Gus Bobbit was gunned down by a professional killer hired by a rival landowner. The killer and three conspirators were arrested, and an epidemic of hanging fever swept through the town. Led by the Masons, the upstanding members of Ada, a lynch mob formed early on the morning of April 19th, 1909. Forty members marched solemnly out of the Masonic Hall on Twelfth at Broadway in downtown Ada and arrived at the jail a few minutes later. They subdued the sheriff, yanked the four thugs out of their cells, and dragged them across the street to a livery stable that had been chosen for the occasion. Each of the four had his wrists and ankles bound with baling wire, then each was ceremoniously hanged.
Early the next morning a photographer set up his camera in the barn and took some pictures. One survived over the years, a faded black and white that clearly shows all four men suspended by their ropes, motionless, almost peaceful, and quite dead. Years later, the photo was reproduced on a postcard and handed out at the Chamber of Commerce office.
For decades, the lynchings were Ada's proudest moment.
It would appear to be a true story.
Wonder what the chances are that "Gus Bobbit", was infact "Bro. Gus Bobbit" :)
Bro. Theo Jones
03-30-2009, 09:48 AM
More than that, he was also a baboon- which was one of the symbols for the Egyptian god Thoth- who was Mercury, who was Hermes, who was Hiram by some accounts....
Ah, the medu neter of Djehuty, the trickster... Rafiki would be a good representation of him for sure. Bro. Tim is correct, Djehuty was the Kemetian medu neter known as Thoth by the Greeks. The Greeks associated Djehuty with Hermes Trismegistus (Mercury to the Romans) and by some accounts he was the bases for Hiram the builder. There is also some parallel symbolism between Djehuty/Hermes Trismegistus and Enoch from the old testament as both constructed pillars to protect the sacred knowledge, one resistant to fire and one resistant to the deluge. We all know, based on our Fraternity's ritual, that a representation of those two pillars stood on the outer porch of KST.
Bro. Wade M-K
04-05-2009, 08:39 PM
After reading this thread I decided to search out 'The Man Who Would be King' on the weekend and I now have the DVD on my shelf. I haven't watched it yet but I'm looking forward to in the next couple of days.
Bro. Ben Williams
04-05-2009, 09:15 PM
After reading this thread I decided to search out 'The Man Who Would be King' on the weekend and I now have the DVD on my shelf. I haven't watched it yet but I'm looking forward to in the next couple of days.
Oh, you'll love it! It's an excellent film – great performances all round.
Bruce Rux
04-06-2009, 09:49 AM
After reading this thread I decided to search out 'The Man Who Would be King' on the weekend and I now have the DVD on my shelf. I haven't watched it yet but I'm looking forward to in the next couple of days.
The Man Who Would Be King - original story by Brother Rudyard Kipling - is a great Masonic movie. Masonry is integral to the plot. Ne'er-do-well soldier of fortune Masonic Brothers, Daniel Dravot (Sean Connery) and Peachy Karnahan (Michael Caine), decide to retire from Her Majesty's service to become "Kings of Kafiristan." Brother Rudyard Kipling (Christopher Plummer) witnesses their contract with each other to this effect, and the movie is Peachy returning to Brother Kipling after their adventure is already over to relate the story of what happened to him and Danny Dravot.
Danny and Peachy's plan is simple enough, and familiar to anyone who has studied imperial involvement around the world: smuggle arms into another country (Kafiristan), choose a local warlord to make temporary king, use him to form a well-armed fighting force (under their own control), unify the country, then depose their own chosen monarch under whatever charges they can trump-up to grab the riches they've acquired under his name. (MI-6 and the CIA, I'm sure, lent their own field operations manual to director John Huston, unless he was simply savvy enough on his own to already know their game.)
The Brothers get an added bonus to their plan, when a lucky accident makes Danny out to be a returning god - the locals think he's an avatar of Alexander the Great - thanks to a Masonic medallion, given Danny by Brother Kipling, stopping what would otherwise have been a fatal arrow. The local priests recognize the square and compasses, which adorn Alexander's treasure-house. As a returning god, Danny (and loyal servant Peachy) are free to take all of Alexander's gold and take off, as per their original plan...but, then, a god might actually be able to improve the locals' primitive sociopolitical world, eh?
Needless to say - this is a John Huston movie, after all - it all goes south at one point, giving us the dramatic story Brother Peachy relates to Brother Kipling. There are added Masonic references and symbols, beyond the obvious, but I wouldn't want to talk about them before you've seen the movie.
Highly recommended to all Brothers - and non-Brothers, for that matter. One of my all-time favorites.
Bruce Rux
04-06-2009, 10:21 AM
I netflixed "From Hell" and decided to watch it tonight. I realized it is not, again NOT, a movie you want to watch while eating some dinner...
There's an earlier movie in the same vein as "From Hell," a Sherlock Holmes flick called "Murder By Decree," (1975, or so, about the same time The Man Who Would Be King was made) with Christopher Plummer as Holmes and James Mason as Dr. Watson. It's a good flick, based on the writings of Stephen Knight (I think his name was), who posited the theory that the Ripper was a coalition of three or four men, working under secret orders of Queen Victoria to silence witnesses to one of Prince Eddie's youthful indiscretions resulting in a Catholic ******* who was, to say the least, inconvenient to the current political climate.
Knight has been criticized for being an Islamic supporter out to discredit Masonry. I don't know about that, but his theory has at least some validity to it. Its principal underpinning is the birth of a child whose existence is in some doubt - there are no documents to support it. Sir William Gull, the Royal Surgeon, was named as the chief of the Rippers in Murder By Decree, as in From Hell. Gull couldn't have been active in the murders even if the theory is true, as he was in his seventies and had suffered a stroke paralyzing one side of his body before the murders were committed.
However, the theory does answer a few points ignored by other Ripperologists. For one thing, there was a "double-header" one night, two different prostitutes, across town from each other, within a half hour, extremely difficult to imagine one man having committed for logistical reasons. For another, there were Masonic clues in the Ripper murders. The "Juwes" line scrawled on the alley wall was only one. In his letters to Scotland Yard, verified as coming from the actual Ripper owing to matching body pieces being sent along with them, the Ripper included squares and compasses and occasionally other Masonic symbols. Knight named the painter William Sickert as one of the Rippers, who author Patricia Cornwell is convinced was the sole Ripper. Sickert always claimed to know who the Ripper was, and there is strong circumstantial evidence that he was, at the very least, either involved in the killings, or an accessory after the fact. I don't know whether Sickert was a Mason, but it would add weight to the charge if he was. Queen Victoria replaced many of Scotland Yard's top echelon with Masons during the Ripper investigation, and gave them all special commendations for the case - which, officially, was never solved.
From Hell may have part of the answer, which - to me, at least - scans. Gull was not the Ripper (or one of the Rippers), but whoever was had at least some Masonic knowledge. Victoria put the Masons in charge of the investigation, realizing this when it must have been brought to her attention. The culprit (or culprits) was likely someone with some Masonic knowledge who either was not accepted in the Fraternity, or was accepted and at a later date expelled. The Masons would be in the best position to find that individual, and take care of matters behind the scenes to avoid scandal. Whether they did so as shown in From Hell - which I would not consider unlikely, if in fact something like what happened in the movie was what happened in real life - or in some other fashion, the murders stopped.
Food for thought.
Bro. Theo Jones
04-06-2009, 12:09 PM
It's a good flick, based on the writings of Stephen Knight (I think his name was), who posited the theory that the Ripper was a coalition of three or four men, working under secret orders of Queen Victoria to silence witnesses to one of Prince Eddie's youthful indiscretions resulting in a Catholic ******* who was, to say the least, inconvenient to the current political climate.
Definitely, Stephen Knight, who was one of the UK's leading Anti-Masons & Conspiracy Theorists. I actually read the book where he made the claim that Masons were behind the Ripper murders and found it to be rather dull & unsubstantiated material. Which leads me to my post in the Jack the Ripper thread: but, but, if Stephen Knight says it is so, it must be, right??! :unsure:
Bro. Jason Bryce
04-13-2009, 11:05 AM
From the movie The Ant Bully:
http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e362/akaotto/antbullysQ02.jpg
Bro. JC Walker
06-07-2009, 09:35 PM
The Librarian; Return To King Solomon's Mines
Eight minutes into it, there's the S&C with a triangle inside, then you find out it's the "Order of Cryptic Mason's, descendants of the original twenty-four, sworn to protect the secrets of Solomon..."
Bro. Russell Cram
06-08-2009, 01:25 AM
Saw an episode of "In Plain Sight" tonight, a drama about the witness protection program. and this one was about a bridge builder whose bridge failed. One of the characters in this had a Masonic ring and implied that one of the Marshall's was a Brother as well. My wife caught it and called me at work...
Br RJ Gleason
06-08-2009, 05:44 PM
On Sci-Fi the other night, "King Tut's Tomb" showed that Freemasonry was active all the way back to the middle kingdom.
WB Timothy W. Hogan
06-08-2009, 05:53 PM
On Sci-Fi the other night, "King Tut's Tomb" showed that Freemasonry was active all the way back to the middle kingdom.
There was another Sci-Fi movie on the other night called "The Sands of Oblivion", which was basically like the Mummy. However the main plot is that when the 10 Commandments was being filmed in 1955, a bunch of Egyptian artifacts were brought over to the United States for the filming. One of these contained this Anubis demon. Director (and brother) Cecil B. DeMille hired his Hollywood Masonic Lodge to trap the demon in the sands of California. However a recent excavation of the old Holywood set releases the demon again and it has to be stopped by the main characters of the film. Without giving away too much, the movie ends with Hollywood Masonic Lodge coming back and sealing the demon away again! Here is a link to it...
http://www.scifi.com/sandsofoblivion/
WB Yudi Wong
06-08-2009, 09:41 PM
Cool, I'll see if I can Netflix Sands of Oblivion.
Last night, on the USA series In Plain Sight (filmed in Albuquerque) one of the main characters appeals to a man's charity in not seeking revenge. The man was wearing a masonic ring; he also had written a letter or poem citing the "ashlars of Solomon's Temple." :cool:
Bro. Wade M-K
06-09-2009, 06:39 AM
Whilst not technically a movie, it was on television on the weekend here in Australia on Ovation.
The Metropolitan Opera's version of Mozart's The Magic Flute.
http://metoperafamily.org/_post/images/12106Ononline/Flute4hdl212106.jpg http://www.playbillarts.com/images/photos/SarastroA460.jpg
Very visual and rich in colour. I'm not a big fan of opera but the Masonic undertone in this one had me watching it all the way through.
Which begs two questions;
1.Can anyone recall if there is any Masonic references in the movie Amadeus?
2.Is Kenneth Branagh's movie version Masonically themed?
WB Yudi Wong
06-09-2009, 08:37 AM
Bro. Wade,
I don't recall anything in Amadeus that hinted at Freemasonry. Is Kenneth Branagh going to be in the Magic Flute or Amadeus? :unsure:
Bruce Rux
06-09-2009, 10:29 AM
Nothing was overtly mentioned - or, as I recall, seen in the background - of a Masonic nature in Amadeus, though I could be mistaken as it has been a while since I've seen it. Peter Shaffer seems to have ignored the theory that Mozart was assassinated for revealing Masonic secrets in The Magic Flute - which is just as well, because I'm pretty sure it isn't true. I think the Emperor was a Mason, himself. If he had any problem with the opera, he wouldn't have allowed it.
WB Mike Smitson
06-09-2009, 04:54 PM
The Librarian; Return To King Solomon's Mines
Eight minutes into it, there's the S&C with a triangle inside, then you find out it's the "Order of Cryptic Mason's, descendants of the original twenty-four, sworn to protect the secrets of Solomon..."
But, But JC, there were not 24 there....
Bro. Wade M-K
06-09-2009, 05:05 PM
Bro. Wade,
I don't recall anything in Amadeus that hinted at Freemasonry. Is Kenneth Branagh going to be in the Magic Flute or Amadeus? :unsure:
Sorry, I should have clarified that better. Kenneth Branagh directed a film version of The Magic Flute in 2006 but I've never seen it.
It's set in the First World War but that's about all I know.
Bro. Gerry Kendle
06-09-2009, 10:06 PM
Not sure about the masonic influence, other than the pillars, but the background in the second picture is an emblem from the old Battlestar Galactica series in the 1970's. Hey I used to be a nerd. . .
Bro. Wade M-K
06-09-2009, 10:33 PM
And we all know that Battlestar Galactica has some Masonic references don't we Gerry. ;)
http://www.galactica.tv/images/thumbnails/ranks-home3.jpg
It practically identical isn't it.
http://scifipatch.bizland.com/BSG01.jpg
This picture might be better to show the symbols of the Sun, Moon, Compass, Eye, Hourglass etc:
http://oberon481.typepad.com/.a/6a00d8341c4e3853ef010536a40b60970c-800wi
mrpearce
06-11-2009, 12:42 AM
The interlaced orange and black triangular pattern within the circle is an inverted tantric sri yantra, which represents the pathway through the chakras as Shakti rises through the body to meet Shiva.
Check it out here: http://www.tantra-kundalini.com/sri-yantra.htm
Good stuff.
Bruce Rux
06-11-2009, 09:04 AM
The interlaced orange and black triangular pattern within the circle is an inverted tantric sri yantra, which represents the pathway through the chakras as Shakti rises through the body to meet Shiva.
Check it out here: http://www.tantra-kundalini.com/sri-yantra.htm
Good stuff.
Speaking of "compassed A's," has anyone ever noticed the Starfleet symbol seen on the Enterprise's shirts? (At least, on the original Star Trek.) You'll see the same thing on the "A's" in "Stargate," during the opening credits of Stargate SG-1.
Bro. Gerry Kendle
06-11-2009, 03:15 PM
Maybe we are taking over the world and we just don't know it!
Bro. Russ DuRant
06-11-2009, 03:29 PM
I just got my copy of national treasure in the mail and I hope to watch it before I go to the sleep lab tonight
http://i678.photobucket.com/albums/vv141/all_ritten/All%20Seeing%20Eye/poster.jpg
Bro. Derek
06-12-2009, 02:00 AM
Not a movie, but on a tv show on in the background this evening, I perked up when I heard the words "ashlar' "temple " and 'King Solomon"...In Plain Sight...USA network. Never saw the show before, nor all the way through this time , but gist is the cop character grabs the hand of another ( suspect type guy) after the cop says these things, and turns the second man's ring around and there is the S&C..
Bro. Jim Hinkley
06-12-2009, 09:10 AM
Not a movie, but on a tv show on in the background this evening, I perked up when i heard the words "ashlar' "temple " and 'King Solomon"...In Plain Site...USA network. Never saw the show, but the charature grbs the hand of a nother after saying these things, and turns the second man's ring around and there is the S&C..
Sweet! I DVR'd that show :)
Bro. Derek
06-23-2009, 12:19 PM
Sweet! I DVR'd that show :)
So, was there anymore to the Masonic connection, or did my ears perk up for the only bit? Don't leave me hangin', Bro. Jim!
Bro. Rich Vazquez
06-23-2009, 09:25 PM
You can watch it on Hulu:
http://www.hulu.com/watch/76725/in-plain-sight-duplicate-bridge
About 24 minutes in is the beginning of the scene.
The quote said to connect with the man with "the ring"
"We build our house on these manifold truths: rough hewn and perfect, like the ashlars of Solomon's temple. ... He is to be condemned, but also deeply pitied. Wrong and injustice once done cannot be undone, but are eternal in their consequences. ... Without verity, there is no justice."
http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/In_Plain_Sight#Duplicate_Bridge_.5B2.07.5D
It doesn't go beyond that. The episode is about bridges, though - lotta geometry ;-}
Bro. Derek
06-24-2009, 08:55 AM
Thanks Bro. Need you pay for that Hulu stuff or is it free?
Bro. Rich Vazquez
06-24-2009, 08:58 AM
It's free
Bro. Rich Vazquez
06-30-2009, 11:00 AM
I'm sure the references in Scanner Darkly were meant to be more Illuminati paranoia oriented, but this picture on the door caught my eye (there are pyramids with eyes, etc. scattered in the movie)
WB Brad Riley
06-30-2009, 03:56 PM
One episode of The Andy Griffith Show is entitled "The Lodge" which is about Andy's Masonic Lodge and how Howard gets black balled. It may not actually be a masonic lodge, but it is kind of implied.
Bro. Nate Fall
06-30-2009, 06:07 PM
Let's see here....I've seen a small part of the EA degree in a movie called "From Hell" which is about Jack the Ripper....Unless I missed my guess, that was supposed to be then Crown Prince Edward VIII taking his EA degree...
I've seen a Masonic ring in "League of Extraordinary Gentlemen" which was on the finger of the main villain...And on the back of the doors to his office. The character is supposed to be Dr. Moriarty from Sherlock Holmes fame....
On that note, does anyone know if Sir Arthur Conan Doyle was blackballed and used that as the reason to make Moriarty an evil mason?
Bro. Theo Jones
06-30-2009, 10:54 PM
Let's see here....I've seen a small part of the EA degree in a movie called "From Hell" which is about Jack the Ripper....Unless I missed my guess, that was supposed to be then Crown Prince Edward VIII taking his EA degree...
I've seen a Masonic ring in "League of Extraordinary Gentlemen" which was on the finger of the main villain...And on the back of the doors to his office. The character is supposed to be Dr. Moriarty from Sherlock Holmes fame....
On that note, does anyone know if Sir Arthur Conan Doyle was blackballed and used that as the reason to make Moriarty an evil mason?
Bro. Fall,
"The League of Extraordinary Gentlement" was created by the same comic book writer as "From Hell" who obviously has some disdain for Masonry. He decided to steal the character from Sir Arthur Conan Doyle or should I say Brother Arthur Conan Doyle, as he was a Mason.
Bro. Nate Fall
07-01-2009, 02:00 AM
So... Did Doyle ever explain why he made Holmes' nemesis an Freemason? Especially when the character was evil? I'd love to know...
Karl-Gunnar Hultland
07-01-2009, 03:30 AM
So... Did Doyle ever explain why he made Holmes' nemesis an Freemason? Especially when the character was evil? I'd love to know...
I can't remember any references from the works of Bro Doyle about Dr Moriarity being a mason? I know that Holmes meet some masons in the course of his adventures though...
Thomas Munkholt
07-01-2009, 04:33 AM
I am big fan of Alan Moore who created the graphic novels Watchmen, From Hell, League of Extraordinary Gentlemen etc., but who had nothing to do with the movies, to the point of not even wishing a credit.
Moore clearly buys into Stephen Knight's The Brotherhood, which is a very critical examination of freemasonry in England, attempting to imply tacit corruption in the police department, courts etc. Not much in the way of proofs, but that's antis for you. Moore also clearly draws on this book in his unfinished series, Big Numbers.
It has to be understood that Moore is very much into the occult (his Promethea is basically his personal occult diary), but to him freemasonry is a social club (with a mystical veneer, understood only by a few of its members) designed to garner influence with the right circles, and anyone involved is by implication suspect.
But viewed in that light, the freemasons make for perfect (fictional) bedpartners to a shadowy government organisation (led by "M", Moriarty), as in the case of his tongue-in-cheek League -- the graphic novel includes S&Cs on every door, and even SWATs wearing aprons -- I mean, it's fun. "Tongue-in-cheek", though, was replaced with "plain dumb" in the movie version, LXG. (Also, it is not so much about stealing Moriarty as reinventing a host of literary themes and characters, to great effect -- again, speaking only of the original work by Moore.)
Similarly, the complex, brilliantly crazy occult reasoning of his Ripper character is completely lost in the movie version, and only a S&C or two remains.
Sorry to be long-winded, but like I said, I am a fan of Moore, and the movies suck (well, except maybe for Watchmen, but that is off-topic). But yes, he is clearly biased against freemasonry, which is a petty.
Bro. Nate Fall
07-01-2009, 05:11 AM
Ah! Well....that explains it well and good...A sad thing when such a celebrated author/illustrator is, in fact, and anti-mason.... It only breeds more aprehension of us to the up and coming generations... As if we didn't already have enough recruiting issues...
Bro. JC Walker
07-10-2009, 07:07 PM
The movie version didn't show it, but in Watchmen, Ozymandias' Antarctic base has two obelisks outside the entrance. An entrance that has a very "KST" feel to it.
Can't find an image online...
Bro. JC Walker
07-19-2009, 12:40 PM
"The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen" was created by the same comic book writer as "From Hell" who obviously has some disdain for Masonry.
He styles himself an occultist and magician, has performed before Golden Dawn meetings, and seems to have lived the majority of his life on a constant hallucinogenic binge.
There is a documentary out abut him; I think I'll rent it just to get a little deeper look into a very strange man...
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/01181/arts-graphics-2007_1181528a.jpg
Bro. Randall Lockard
07-20-2009, 03:41 PM
There is a documentary out about him; I think I'll rent it just to get a little deeper look into a very strange man...
If you get a chance, I would encourage you to watch The Mindscape of Alan Moore, which is out on DVD. It is essentially an hour and a half of Alan Moore staring at the camera and talking about stuff, but trust me when I tell you that he has very interesting things to say. I know that he is primarily a comic book writer, but he still might be my favorite author. His Promethea series was amazing, especially toward the end where the main character climbs up the Tree of Life. Highly recommended.
Bro. JC Walker
07-20-2009, 04:48 PM
If you get a chance, I would encourage you to watch The Mindscape of Alan Moore, which is out on DVD. It is essentially an hour and a half of Alan Moore staring at the camera and talking about stuff, but trust me when I tell you that he has very interesting things to say. I know that he is primarily a comic book writer, but he still might be my favorite author. His Promethea series was amazing, especially toward the end where the main character climbs up the Tree of Life. Highly recommended.
Yes, that is exactly the documentary I saw available. Heading back to the video store now...
Bro. Randall Lockard
07-20-2009, 07:36 PM
Yes, that is exactly the documentary I saw available. Heading back to the video store now...
In that case, let me also add the caveat that the 'director' keeps cutting in with silly vignettes that interrupt what is an otherwise captivating discourse. If you fast-forward through those bits and just focus on what he has to say, you will probably enjoy it immensely.
Bro. JC Fowler
07-29-2009, 07:46 PM
the movie 7 pounds with will smith meant alot to me about doing something for my fellow man woman child
Bro. JC Walker
08-07-2009, 09:27 PM
Deadwood Season One, Episode Three;
The new "game" has just rolled into town, slimy EB Farnum goes in to reconnoiter. The pit boss, speaking to a total stranger says, "What do you think, Hiram, ever seen a craps layout before?"
Farnum just stares at the felt, clueless.
Of course, it turns out the two are well-acquainted. There is no other mention that I remember, but I'll be paying more attention now.
Bro. Kendall Jewell
08-10-2009, 09:01 AM
Ah! Well....that explains it well and good...A sad thing when such a celebrated author/illustrator is, in fact, and anti-mason.... It only breeds more aprehension of us to the up and coming generations... As if we didn't already have enough recruiting issues...
the anti-masons bring us in more petitioners than they scare away:tc:
Frater Pandokeus
08-10-2009, 10:57 AM
Someone pointed this out to me recently. See if you can spot the (probably unintentional?) Masonic reference in this old Run DMC video...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-C2b8XWJnfE
Bro. Rich Vazquez
08-10-2009, 06:09 PM
LL Cool J, way back in the day, had the habit of dressing in a familiar way
Bro. JC Walker
09-22-2009, 10:13 PM
Okay, not Masonic, but does anyone remember Skulls? Just watched it again after decades. Perfect fare for the conspiracy crew.
Also watched Taps recently, and while there are no overt references, the chapel used had a somewhat masonic decor, plus the fellowship found in a military setting can be quite similar to that of a lodge.
Bruce Rux
09-22-2009, 11:15 PM
Okay, not Masonic, but does anyone remember Skulls? Just watched it again after decades. Perfect fare for the conspiracy crew.
Also watched Taps recently, and while there are no overt references, the chapel used had a somewhat masonic decor, plus the fellowship found in a military setting can be quite similar to that of a lodge.
The Skulls was playing on Yale's Skull & Bones, the CIA's top recruiting club. Skull & Bones is a quasi-Masonic group, or perhaps more pseudo-Masonic, not connected at all to, or recognized by, the Masons. The movie does have a rather Masonic feel, though - for a Lodge in Hell.
Thomas Munkholt
09-23-2009, 06:35 AM
It's blink and you'll miss it, but in Miami Vice (the movie) there is a brief scene outside what I think was the Scottish Rite.
Bro. Greg Starr
09-23-2009, 10:23 AM
There was an action movie last year called "Shoot 'em Up" - plot is hero/anti-hero is a mster marksman and goes up against bad guys who are trying to kill him. Why? He rescued a baby from the mother the bad guys killed...becasue a wealthy politician was paying to have women give birth to babies so he could get the stem cells to cure his disease. (No seriously, theat is the plot) Anyway, the lead bad guy - Paul Giamatti, of "John Adams" fame - has a HUGE S&C on his coat lapel....no refs to the Craft in the film..just that pin. The movie is rather poor, save for lots of shooting special effects.
Bruce Rux
05-14-2010, 04:34 AM
Just saw the midnight show of Ridley Scott's Robin Hood. Not what you'd expect - it's more a prequel story, about how Robin Hood became Robin Hood - but it's hot.
It's also rather pointedly Masonic. Robin loses his father when he's a boy, making him a "widow's son." His "stone mason" father had a plan to unite the country under a bill of rights (which is obviously supposed to be the Magna Carta), as a social compact in which the king recognizes the sovereignty of all men's homes as their castles.
Some of the rest of you may notice other Masonic elements, but I don't want to spoil any more than I already have.
Just go see it, already.
Bro. Michael Costello
06-10-2010, 06:19 AM
You can not have a discussion of Masonic movies/TV without mentioning the "Simpsons" episode featuring the "Stonecutters". It is a classic; very funny stuff!
The movie "Sherlock Holmes" starring Robert Downy Jr. has a magical fraternity in it which could be mis-identified as Masonic to the uninitiated.
Bro. Jeremy P. Jackson
06-10-2010, 03:01 PM
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